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Mrs. Fiorini
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OMG! a horrible lie in the July WT with a jesus pic....
by oompa inbad day today...how the hey did everyone miss this??
?....or did i miss a post about it?.....i am not supposed to talk about anything jw with my hardcore jw wife...but while on the toilet takin care of biz..i was reading the lit she leaves in a basket...it was a wt..july 08, but dont know which one....once i showed it to her it disappeared...but damm the last page i think... it had a drawing of jesus and the text under it said this "jesus used the name jehovah in his prayers"....or close....and that is a fluckkin lie!...zero support for it!...so i said just freakin show me where he did...i think my pants were still down...i had already come to terms with the fact that jesus never once uttered the name jehovah ever...because what kid...esp in a serious discussion with his dad (like prayer) would ever call him by his first name???
?...she disagreed...how i dont know...but where is the evidence that jesus ever said the divine name in a prayer?!?!!??
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Mrs. Fiorini
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Even if its not the truth its still the best way of life!
by mtsgrad incomplete the following:.
even if its not the truth...... .
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Mrs. Fiorini
I can't count the JW's I've known who have said that. I don't know what's sadder, thinking the WT has the truth, or thinking that being lied to and manipulated by the organization is the best way of life. They sure do a number on people!
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Leave silently or loudly: that is the question
by Hiddenwindow insince the wt has always capitalized on secrecy, aren't we playing into their game when we leave silently?
wouldn't it be better to make as much noise as possible when leaving?
it would be of great help if each individual who leaves for matters of conscience or disagreement with doctrine wrote a letter to his entire congregation and family explaining his view on the issues.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Good point. If circumstances make it appropriate, it could help some others to leave too.
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Jesus DID doubt Jehovah and himself "why has thou forsaken me."
by Witness 007 injesus asked that "lord if this cup can be taken from my....but as you will it.
" and ofcourse while hanging he said "lord lord why have you forsaken me.
" but the watchtower puts a positive spin on this saying he as god's son wasn't doubting or changing his mind...what do you think?
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Mrs. Fiorini
My understanding of that passage, which I gained only after leaving the Watchtower, is that Jesus last words were a reciting of Psalm 22.
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I love life, I love humans!
by Gladring ini'm quite a laid back person and am usually happy to sit back and take it all in but i feel i have to speak up.
i believe everyone is entitled to their opinions and do not like censorship.
i have been disturbed by the increasing number of misleading posts defending the wtbts.
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Mrs. Fiorini
That's such a good point about loving life and loving humans. If you had only one word to describe the philosophy of Jesus and Christianity, it would be love.
A belief that at any moment God is going to execute the vast majority of human life on earth, from babies to grandparents, prevents people from fully experiencing and feeling that love.
Leaving the Watchtower has been such an incredible gift!! -
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My HISTORICAL night in Grant Park!!! AMAZING!!!! (pics)
by Tatiana ini had a ticket to get in and took one guest.
i stood in line for about two hours.
i then stood up for seven hours watching and waiting and dancing and laughing and cheering.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Thanks for sharing. What a wonderful opportunity for you to actually be there! Mr. Fiorini and I watched it at home together. When it was announced, we let out a scream, gave each other a high five and a big hug and kiss. Then, after I sat down, the tears came. I have never felt this way about an election before. This has been so long overdue. Finally hope has returned!!
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Obama said "peace and security" in his speech tonite
by yadda yadda 2 injw's will be a bit excited about that!
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Mrs. Fiorini
What society has ever not wanted peace and security? And what politician in a position to do something about it would not talk about peace and security? This has given JWs many opportunities to get excited in the past and will continue to in the future as well.
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JW in Germany Have "Stand Firm"-Event in Protestant Church Building!
by GermanXJW inon november 13th, jw in hamburg are again showing their "stand firm"-movie and on on november 18th they have a contemporary jw witness there to talk about his experiences.
jw in europe have done this several times.
the interesting piece is that this time it is being done in the "haus der kirche" ("house of the church") in harburg, a hamburg district.
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Mrs. Fiorini
SBF: Isn't that the truth! If it ever becomes a situation that is to the benefit of the organization, all rules will be thrown out immediately. For example, the joint lawsuit with other religious organizations about taxes on profits from sales of literature. I wonder how much contact was kept to a minimum while working on legal strategy in that case? Of course the WT's main strategy in such situations is to keep it quiet and hope the R&F doesn't find out!
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Got some troubles....
by thebiggestlie inso i havnt posted in a while but i'm a regular lurker.
i'm 19 years old and live at home with the parentals.
i just admitted to them that i've been secretly seeing a "worldly" girl for about a year.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I know this is a tough time for you. My thoughts are with you as you sort out what you will do. Congratulations, though, on figuring out that life in the WT is a big mistake. You're still young, with your whole life ahead of you. That's a real advantage. So many of us here took much longer to figure it out. And we have all the regrets and missed opportunities that go along with that. Even though this is hard, you will have escaped much by getting out at your age! Good luck!
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Interesting Local Needs Talk: Don't Invite Studies To "Our" Get Togethers
by minimus ini heard that the most recent local needs talk was regarding the evils of having non witnesses at "our" gatherings.
since there's nothing really for "us" to talk to "them" about, and since "their" conversation will not involve anything to do with "the truth", we should guard against "worldly" association.
it appears that the cult wants their members totally removed from anyone not a witness.
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Mrs. Fiorini
This is so sad. Can you imagine how much fun it is to be part of this group if you have an unbelieving mate? "You're invited to the party, but don't bring your husband because he might corrupt the rest of us!"
I hope people figure out that the real reason for this "counsel" is because their shunning policies work better when their followers have no friends outside of the organization!